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Der Einzige's avatar

Great article. A slight correction is that the Vedic religion (in some form) was the Aryan religion before they came to ancient India. It's unclear exactly how much of modern Hinduism existed before this, but it's assumed many gods & such already existed in the local religion while Vedicism came later & "philosophized" it. Note that modern Hinduism is very far from the ancient Vedic religion, especially as the Aryans left India for what became Persia & Afghanistan (there is little PIE blood in modern India, they most likely left rather than miscegenate in mass).

I'll respond to the part you mentioned me in with a note.

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Magane's avatar

I see what you mean by folkism now. You're already probably familiar with it, but some of what you've been saying reminded me of Serb's Slava: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slava_(tradition)

Which basically serves to bring (extended) family together while also being mixed w/ religion

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Aodhan MacMhaolain's avatar

Yes, Slava would be considered folkish IMO. This sort of nuance is hard for most people, but I believe that it is consistent with the underlying natural functions which create folk groups.

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Billy Thistle's avatar

Jews subverted Gentile/Pagan/Heathen and later Christian cultures from the top down. They got rulers in debt or dependent on their services so they could extract most favored people's status for their tribe. I believe the Christian Church accomplished religious dominance differently. Sometimes it was done by force, but probably not so much unless there was organized resistance.

There's a unique, to my knowledge, thesis by Edo Nyland that pacifist monks, in the early middle ages, socially engineered pagan cultures by inventing their colloquial written languages in order to change subsequent understanding of their legends and theology to make them more amenable to Christian replacement. This monumental task was the work of Benedictine scribes and other orthodox missionaries. Nyland fleshes out this hugely controversial idea by using the Basque language as a cipher to decode ogham inscriptions, place names and titles in two books: Linguistic Archeology and Odysseus and the Sea Peoples. https://www.amazon.com/Linguistic-Archaeology-Introduction-Edo-Nyland/dp/1552126684/ref=sr_1_1?

https://www.amazon.com/Odysseus-Sea-Peoples-History-Scotland/dp/1552127818/ref=sr_1_1?

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Aodhan MacMhaolain's avatar

interesting, I'll look into this. Thanks, Billy!

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Aodhan MacMhaolain's avatar

I answer this in my article "The Importance of Kinship" - hint, it's not that complicated.

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